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the whining has shifted to other teams. just look at toto last year over porpoising and horner's famous comment "fix your car".

the reality is every F1 team whines. the further you go up the rankings, the more the whining. the cutthroat pettiness is all part of the spectacle and why i love it.

signde wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:52 am the whining has shifted to other teams. just look at toto last year over porpoising and horner's famous comment "fix your car".

the reality is every F1 team whines. the further you go up the rankings, the more the whining. the cutthroat pettiness is all part of the spectacle and why i love it.

Lol. We all enjoy a bit of melodrama - some soap opera shenanigans.

"All My F1 Children" on ABC Mondays thru Fridays at 2pm Eastern.

blueline wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:51 pm

signde wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:52 am the whining has shifted to other teams. just look at toto last year over porpoising and horner's famous comment "fix your car".

the reality is every F1 team whines. the further you go up the rankings, the more the whining. the cutthroat pettiness is all part of the spectacle and why i love it.

Lol. We all enjoy a bit of melodrama - some soap opera shenanigans.

"All My F1 Children" on ABC Mondays thru Fridays at 2pm Eastern.

it really is a soap opera for adults. i often enjoy browsing the memes after the race weekend is over as much as i like watching the racing itself.

2024 F1 Schedule Released - 22 Races

From Autoweek: https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula ... d568259d8a

F1 Drivers Standings and Points after last week's race at Silverstone:

Max Verstappen 255
Sergio Perez 156
Fernando Alonso 137
Lewis Hamilton 121
Carlos Sainz 83
George Russell 82
Charles Leclerc 74
Lance Stroll 44
Lando Norris 42
Esteban Ocon 31
Oscar Piastri 17
Pierre Gasly 16
Alexander Albon 11
Nico Hulkenberg 9
Valtteri Bottas 5
Zhou Guanyu 4
Yuki Tsunoda 2
Kevin Magnussen 2
Logan Sargeant 0
Nyck de Vries 0


Updated F1 Constructors' Standings and Points:

Red Bull 411
Mercedes 203
Aston Martin 181
Ferrari 157
McLaren 59
Alpine 47
Williams 11
Haas 11
Alfa Romeo 9
AlphaTauri 2

Nobody seems to care about the racing any more. Now the reporting is all about what "celebrity" stood up Martin Brundle.

Stormy_Monday wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:35 am Nobody seems to care about the racing any more. Now the reporting is all about what "celebrity" stood up Martin Brundle.

F1 has always been a lot of glitz and glammer but today's version is off the charts in that respect. The money is insane and what we're seeing is the outcome of the nosebleed expenditures. Interestingly, the money and glitz-driven drama (and melodrama) has probably become the biggest drawing card for some. It's still entertainment (and can be fun in its own right) but it is of a different nature than before.

Maybe F1 needs to revisit a page or two from its early days. Or maybe step a notch or two back to racing as it was in the days of grit, dirt, sweat and fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants racing...kind of like those from NASCAR's much maligned (unfortunately) ex-WW2 B-17 pilot and race car owner, driver, engineer, engine builder, car designer and all around genius, Smokey Yunick. (Yeah, he cheated quite a bit too! )

Yawn...Verstappen wins again. Red Bull finsihes 1st & 3rd.

From Autoweek:
"F1 Hungarian Grand Prix Notes: Just another Record-Setting Day for Verstappen, Red Bull"

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula ... d568259d8a


F1 Hungarian Grand Prix Results

Max Verstappen, Red Bull, 70 laps
Lando Norris, McLaren, +33.7 seconds
Sergio Perez, Red Bull, +37.6
Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, +39.1
Oscar Piastri, McLaren, +1:02.5
George Russell, Mercedes, 1:05.8
Charles Leclerc, Ferrari, +1:10.3
Carlos Sainz, Ferrari, +1:11.0
Fernando Alonso, Alpine, +1:15.7
Lance Stroll, Aston Martin, +1 lap
Alex Albon, Williams, +1 lap
Valtteri Bottas, Alfa Romeo, +1 lap
Daniel Ricciardo, AlphaTauri, +1 lap
Nico Hulkenberg, Haas, +1 lap
Yuki Tsunoda, AlphaTauri, +1 lap
Zhou Guanyu, Alfa Romeo, +1 lap
Kevin Magnussen, Haas, +1 lap
Logan Sargeant, Williams, +3 laps
Esteban Ocon, Alpine, +68 laps
Pierre Gasly, Alpine, +68 laps


Updated Drivers' Standings

Max Verstappen 281
Sergio Perez 171
Fernando Alonso 139
Lewis Hamilton 133
George Russell 90
Carlos Sainz 87
Charles Leclerc 80
Lando Norris 60
Lance Stroll 45
Esteban Ocon 31
Oscar Piastri 27
Pierre Gasly 16
Alex Albon 11
Nico Hulkenberg 9
Valtteri Bottas 5
Zhou Guanyu 4
Yuki Tsunoda 2
Kevin Magnussen 2
Logan Sargeant 0
Nyck de Vries 0
Daniel Ricciardo 0


Constructors' Championship Standings

Red Bull 452
Mercedes 223
Aston Martin 184
Ferrari 167
McLaren 87
Alpine 47
Williams 11
Haas 11
Alfa Romeo 9
AlphaTauri 2

Max Verstappen wins eighth consecutive Formula 1 victory at Belgium Grand Prix, one win shy of tying the record for most F1 wins in a row.

From Autoweek:

"It has been an absolute snoozefest at the front of the field this season as not even a five-place grid penalty for an unscheduled gearbox change could halt the Verstappen train. The reigning World Champion made it into the lead on lap 17 of 44, won by 22 seconds, and even had time to have petty arguments with Race Engineer Gianpiero Lambiase over tire usage during the final stint of the grand prix."


https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula ... d568259d8a

F1 is on Summer break until the Dutch Grand Prix at the end of August.

Nine wins in a row...

"F1 Dutch Grand Prix Notebook: Max Verstappen Ties Yet Another All-Time Record with Win"

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula ... d568259d8a